I'm going to put all this in my book bag because I'm from the streets, the boom was going on, it's your boy ambition. And welcome to another episode of The my FB podcast. And today with me, I have a business coach and strategist that has internationally seen the corporate scene, it has done everything that you can consider within the manager suite. And this is in two different countries. So she's operated within companies in Poland, as well as in companies in Toronto, Canada, which she now calls home. Today with me, I have Miss Maggie Harrington, how you doing, Maggie?
I'm fairly good ambition. How are you?
I'm pretty good. I'm pretty good. I'm glad to have you with me here today. Yeah, I'm
happy to be here. Thank you for having me. I'm really grateful.
All right, so tell us a little bit more about what do you do? How do you help your clients?
How do I help my clients, I focus on service based entrepreneurs. And that might be because of my background in corporate where I worked for a service based big business, and I help them grow their business. But I like I like to say in a holistic way, because I've noticed, even throughout my, you know, corporate career and as a coach people that it's not just enough to have a strategy or pseudo hard skills that tell you kind of what to do. But there is also mindset that goes with it. And implementation itself that sometimes that's the hardest part, right. So the way I work with my clients, I help them of course, with the business strategy and figure out how they're sending out and how to talk to their best clients. So they sort of are attracted to them and by but also how to make decisions in their business from like, the highest level CEO they can be, and not make them out of fear or, you know, not believe that they can be successful, and how to implement it consistently in a way that's sustainable, that doesn't make them busy all the time, and overwhelmed and never, you know, always running and so on, because I believe you can run a thriving business, but at the same time have that harmony between the professional life and personal life. Well,
that's funny enough that that ties into a conversation I was having even before we hopped on, where, you know, that seems to be the desire that a lot of people have, where we do want to balance between our professional life and our personal life, we want to be able to give time to both, you know, and I heard something that sounded like really what you're helping people develop is systems and processes. Along the journey that really helped them be efficient. What are some examples of systems and processes that you can help clients develop that would help them gain more balance in their personal and professional life?
Unknown Speaker 3:04
So yeah, I do have them in business, but also in the way they operate as CEOs. So for example, systems and processes in business, it could be, you know, the way they market their business, right, and maybe Systemising, that and so on, but also client or an onboarding, the service delivery, because, you know, in the beginning, when we're starting, and we have couple of clients, or a few clients, everything can be in your head, and then that's fine. Maybe, but the moment you start scaling, and you're thinking about maybe hiring, you know, somebody to help or outsourcing things, you cannot do this without having system and processes figured out. Because that allows you to train people, and also keep the quality of your service right? In even as you hire people maybe to even do the service, right, depending on your business, you might have differences between one person and another if you don't have systems and processes. And that's important for your brand, right? Like you want the quality of service to be the same no matter who delivers that or where in the world it is or whatever. So that's one but then there was a second part of I call it more routines and habits that your day to day as the CEO you can also develop sub simple good habits that allow you to operate very effectively without the overwhelm and hassle. Right? And that could be the when you plan your days, the way you schedule some creative time or like operational time, the way you run your team and all that. So, you know also internal kind of processes on team motivation, development and things like that.
I really love the approach there. Okay, so then I do have a question that branches directly off of that answer and it's okay so So let's say I'm one of your clients. It sounds like there's really two ways that, you know, your clients may start their days, right. And I'm assuming that, you know, option number one is you have a client that wakes up every morning, and they literally plan out the day that you look at the landscape and figure out what they do. But then No, I also know that there's plenty of people who you know, come from a corporate background, like yourself or myself, where we run by a daily checklist. So do you recommend your clients have one way of approaching their day versus another or more, so a hybrid of plan out your day, but make sure you have your checklist.
Unknown Speaker 5:42
So I actually recommend weekly planning. And that's something I've learned. Because, you know, we chatted a little bit like I actually burned out in my corporate world. And I was planning, I was one of those people that yet plan their day ahead of time, a little bit, and that kind of checklists, or some sort of combination, but at some point that wasn't effective at all. And when I burned out, I started looking for some high performance coaching and other techniques to help me and when I actually implemented planning a week ahead and not coming into the week, not knowing what I was doing, that made such a huge difference in the way I felt in the level in the stress reduction, and even in my effectiveness that as I sort of mastered that process and implemented it to me, I now show my clients how to do it. Now, not everybody is ready for it, right. So when I sometimes start with my clients is know ahead of the time going into the day, what you're doing, just because there's a lot of time and energy and effort you losing by trying to decide every, you know, hour or two hours who you're going to do. And that's lost time. And by the time you decide something happens, and then your brain moves to like the easiest thing that you can do, and not necessarily what you need to do. But ideally, I would say, plan the week ahead and the way you plan it, you want to make sure that your actions are aligned with the goals that you have, right. So you know, if you have a list that you pick from, but then make sure that on that last are really actions that are aligned with your goals and not just kind of like a random combination of things you need to think you need to do or you kind of want to do, but they have nothing to do with your goals where you're going.
Wow. No, I definitely agree with that. It sounds like you want them to structure themselves more around the principles of roadmaps and understanding the direction that they're going in. So yes, that makes a whole lot of sense. And I can't tell you how many times I work with people, and I wish they did have that sort of direction. So 100% agree. And you mentioned burnout, right? And for those of our listeners who work in corporate America, or maybe you aren't in corporate America, many fields and industries within corporate America are now experiencing something we call burnout, right? So for our listeners, what is burnout and you know, what, what was the source of your burnout
Unknown Speaker 8:31
so burnt out it definitely can have different sources in our share mind, but what it is, is really you a feeling exhausted at the end of your day and you know, my probably didn't grow up in a care horrible way. Like I definitely didn't need medical help and so on. But like in that more extreme way it can lead to that, right? When you feel exhausted when you don't have energy. You're also not patient, like it transfers into your personal life and you don't feel like you don't have passion anymore for what you're doing or don't feel even any reward, right that gets it just becomes meaningless, stressful and tiresome. And that kind of like never ends and for me the the reasons for my burnout would was it was a situational I would say so it wasn't systemic, something that lasted for you know, all the time or since I started it was I was in one of the positions where at that time a company committed to some huge contracts that they took on without really being ready to deliver the service. And also in order to win those contracts they agreed to low margin that means we need to cut corner summer Okay, so here you go. You have three months you need to deliver three big multi million dollars contract and we're not giving you any help because we have no money in the budget. Right. And, yeah, a little bit. Like, that's. So I found myself and it wasn't just me. But you know, of course, I were just talking about me, I found myself in, where you're showing up to work, you want to do the best you can, right? Uh, you know, you're effective, you know, you can handle a lot. And yet there's no light in the tunnel, right? You're just set up to fail, you're working, working, working, nothing is working out client is not happy. You're losing weekends, losing sleep, losing the time with your family. And on top of it, you're getting beaten up for it, right? Because whatever you deliver is not good enough. Yeah. Yeah. And that was very demotivating. To me, like, I felt like I was cornered. And I'm a Sagittarius, I like to be free. And that kind of freaked me out at some point. And I said, I can't do this, like, you know,
I will be very honest. And say, um, you know, while I, I, I take responsibility for my burnout. And I it's sounding to me like you're somebody who takes responsibility. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And I believe that, you know, those are things that we do, because we understand that there's power in taking responsibility. Yeah, if I take responsibility, then there's something I can change, and I can become better. However, I don't, I also take it take into consideration that within a lot of the stories that I hear about burnout, and you know, mine included, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, it sounding like this may also be the story for you. There's always a lack of resources. Right? There's always a, you've got to make a miracle happen. And you're sitting there like, I did not sign up for this Jesus walk on water moment, like I didn't. I wasn't expecting that. But the high performer in you wants to show up anyway. And it starts being for me, it was tragic. When I'm showing up. I'm looking at the screen and I'm a cybersecurity analyst, right, a cyber security professional. I'm looking at the screen, the numbers are showing up, but they're popping off the screen and then blurring together. And I had a moment. I cried. I was like, No, this is not okay. Yeah. So it really is if you're listening, and you've experienced burnout, or you're new to entrepreneurship, and you're going going, going going, listen, you're still a high performer. If you take some breaks, you're still a high performer if you take some rest. Yeah, take a break. And when we figure out where the light at the end of the tunnel is because burnout is serious, it's and it's, look, it's no fucking joke.
Unknown Speaker 13:01
Yeah, no, I agree. And you know what, like, uh, from there, I started talking about high performance and not in the sense that sometimes we understand that it's just work, work, work, work, and I produce a lot of output. But more about high performance, like, yes, you do produce a lot of output, because you have fewer, highly effective with your time, but you also make sure that you're performing at your highest level, and that includes rest for your brain rest for your body. Right? Because truly, you your mind is unable to create great solutions when it's exhausted, and tired and malnourished, and so on. Right? And that's and I'm agree with you, like I totally, you know, took responsibility for it, where I said, like, Okay, I have to do something on my end. And that's where that led me to me taking some high performance coaching that made me realize Yeah, like setting boundaries, getting sleep, getting rest, that's all part of high performance, not just work, work work. And and then, you know, ultimately leading to starting my business, right just to to take responsibility and create sort of the environment that I wanted to be in not necessarily putting myself out there again, for potential similar situation on the line.
Okay, so this next question is going to be a two parter, right? So okay, it's, who would you recommend? Get this coaching? You mentioned two types of coaching you yourself or you're a business coach and business strategist. So we want to who would you recommend to go see a business coach and who would you recommend to go see a high performance coach?
Unknown Speaker 14:48
Okay. I would say both bad the bad for the business coach, you know, if you're a business owner, right, and you Oh, really, for me, if you're a business owner who is looking to grow a professional business that you want, good income coming out of it, right, where you don't have to have side hustles, hides, jobs and so on, and you're really wanted to scale beyond six, seven, whatever peakers, you need to become a professional business owner, a CEO, who knows who has business skill, because, you know, we see a lot of entrepreneurs who are great at delivering a service or delivering the product that they offer. But then that's not what grows the business, that's what services your clients what grows, the business is your best my skill, right. So that's, I would say, if you don't want your business to be just a hobby, or sort of like, just to make five figures type of business, then you need to gain some business skills. And I think through coaching, it's the fastest way to do it, and to learn the skills that you really need. And not you know, we go to school, and sometimes, you know, I did an executive MBA, right. But that was something I wanted to do. And so one but there was always at school, there's always some programs that you kind of learn it, but you will never use it. Right? It's kind of it's part of curriculum where, through business coaching, you'll learn what you need, you go and implement that you master that he'll learn more, you go and implement it into one. High performance is if you a if you're striving to burnout and you feel like you're busy all the time, and you and your complaint that you don't have time for things that are important to you, whether it's in your business or in your life, that's definitely there at first. But if you want to be even more proactive about it, and just utilize your time in the most effective way you can, and also create space for self care and other things important for you that, you know, you might want it and whether you're in a corporate world, or whether you're in an entrepreneur, that high performance, coaching will definitely help you.
Wow, no, I definitely. I definitely agree. I've met very few entrepreneurs, seals or sea levels that are not high performers. In fact, every CEO that I've worked for, directly showed up like a high performer if they if they weren't an high performer, they were very good at acting like one. Right? Um, it's I think it's just kind of the name of the game right like that. A lot of people don't even want to show up with the title CEO if they don't think that they're a high performer personally. So no, I definitely agree with you there. What would you say? Was the the epiphany point of your business? What was the epiphany point? Meaning when did it happen? Right? When did you have this epiphany that really changed the way that you saw your business? And then what was the epiphany.
Unknown Speaker 18:12
So when I started my business, I started it on the side, just to and the first step was to do more of what I love, right? So the first thought was, I just need to spend more time to coach people, something that fuels me up and not drains me. And the thing was, like, with my corporate world, the more up the ladder I went, the less time I had to actually focus on my people and coach them into one I did that I created that time regardless, but there was more and more pushed to do other things. Right. So so that was the first but then I realized the more I did that, the more I loved it, and I realized I could actually have in a way career change and do only what I love, you know, while creating time for me and my family and that was an epiphany at some point down the line. And then it was like okay, so how do I do it? Right? How do I get to the point where I can leave my cushy career with all sorts of bonuses and so on and still provide for my family you know, we are you know, I have young kids we're family, a blended family with four kids so you know, mortgage all those things, you know, that you'll get to provide for and, and that was that switch going from a hobby right so like I'm having a hobby that just provides me with fulfillment towards no I'm gonna make it a professional business where I'm going to focus on it and you know, grow it like it's the only you know, source of my income like the ceiling only thing I will do. And that was like, that was it. Yes, a mindset switch for me. And I actually teach it sometimes to my clients in some in some webinars like, what is the growth that you need to do going from a hobby to a professional, co founder of the business, who you can scale it and then rely on the income that comes from it.
I love the way that you put it where you say, going from a hobby to a CEO mindset or professional mindset. I know for myself, the way I looked at it was going from employee to owner. Yeah. And I realized it while I was still working in corporate America, I was thinking man, in order to satisfy what the mission is for this company, I will wake up at five o'clock in the morning and go to the gym, get to my desk, early, right, be sharp, right mentally on point, I'd make sure that the next eight or nine hours were spent furthering the mission of this company, and I was doing that diligently. And I said, What if I could do that for myself? Yeah. Right. And people, I don't think people really realize it's really the hardest thing is to do it for yourself. Even if you picked a Saturday, or if you took PTO. Yeah, right. As soon as the job isn't there, the first thing you go is, let me just go get some rest. Let me go. So it's figuring out what's your mission? What's your mission statement, your purpose? And having that be so powerful that on your time off? Work? Like it's the time on for that business? Yeah. Yeah. That was the shift for me. And I'm glad that you have something similar for your people that it, you need it, it's needed?
Unknown Speaker 21:50
Yes. And it you know, I always say like, a, I think everybody should start a business that because it requires so much of personal growth, that even if you're an ambitious person, and you grow within corporate world, it's nothing to what running a business requires from you. Yes, you have no cushions, no protection, because sometimes, you know, we kind of slowed down because in a corporate world that at least in the company that I worked for, there was always like, Oh, you are in a position. Now you need to stay there a year before we even consider you for promotion, and so on. So that naturally kind of dumbs down your the way you want to grow. Because you know, like, Okay, well, you know, even subconsciously, even if you're not thinking about it, where it's in your business, you have that unlimited potential, but it requires there's also a lot of emotional up and down the roller costs. Yes. And you don't realize that until you start a business. So that's one. But second, I would say yeah, don't start a business just for money. Because of that, like the motivation it takes and the hard work that needs to be put in, in order to build that momentum. Money is never run a motivate you to that extent, right, you have to be passionate about what you do and have a vision to
there are easier ways to make money. Yes. There are easier ways where you don't have to be honest with yourself every day, where and that part right there is something that I'm glad that you said it because I feel like a lot of people take it for granted. You, you really do have a lot of moments where you're going to bring yourself to tears, because there's going to be moments in your business where you have to question whether or not you made a decision based off of your ego, or based off of your purpose, right. And if it was based off of your ego, it's going to show up in the world and it's not going to work and you're going to be like it's it's the most frustrating thing. Right? On the real, the real lessons that come along with, you know, some of that personal development. And, you know, when you hear an entrepreneur, you hear somebody speaking from experience, because I only hear real business owners tell you guys, hey, this isn't easy. This is really hard. It's emotionally draining. It's, you're gonna be on a roller coaster. The guys that are telling you that it's gonna be all fun rainbows and daisies, it's they aren't running real businesses. I don't know what they're doing, but
Unknown Speaker 24:37
I agree. And you know, it's like it always reminds me of it like having kids. You have kids. I have kids we know that. Sometimes the world presents Parenthood in that idealized way. And don't get me wrong. Having kids is the most fulfilling one of the most fulfilling thing you can ever do. But it's damn hard. Right? It's not easy.
I Think, say how amazing it is. But, look, it's amazing because of the sentiment we put behind it. But the natural actions, like Nobody enjoys cleaning up people's poo, nobody wants to do that. Right? So let's stop pretending like it's the most amazing thing in the world. Right? It's amazing that you created a creature that pues now, I'm gonna really enjoy it when it learns to clean its own. Right? Like, we just gotta be honest with with ourselves about these things. And but you're right, you're right, it is similar to parenthood, because you're constantly also questioning when you're in business, Am I doing something that is helpful to the community that I'm coming into contact with? And am I falling in line with some sort of ethical standard? So that was my next question for you? How do you bring that up to your clients as far as any sort of ethics or any sense of code, right?
Unknown Speaker 26:09
So for me, you know, first of all, for me just have to enter the business, you have to be ethical, like, for me, that's like the, you know, entry level, don't go into business if you're not ethical. But if you want to take it one step further, I actually, you know, I follow like a format with my clients. And it's a three step, of course, it's much more complex, when we dive in and start working. But like high level, it's a very simple three step format, I call it diamond effect. And the first step of it is really building foundation of the business based on who you are your values, what's important to you developing that mission, vision and values that guide you down the line to say, yes to the right opportunities, and no to the opportunities that are not right, that might be very shiny, right and very attractive, but it's not. Either it doesn't align with your values or not down the line, which you want to do. So that's when, and then the second part of it, and I call it lead with value and it's establishing your customer journey from before they get to know you, right, so in your marketing and sales, and as they're getting to know you becoming your clients and after, really based on value, because I truly believe that that's that right? In business, especially in entrepreneurship, you don't get paid for the amount of time you work, it's not a nine to five, I'm going in doing whatever I get paid, you actually get paid for the value you deliver to the market to your customers, right. And when you lead with that mindset, when you're actually strategic about your marketing sells the way you work with your clients, but with that value at the front end, and it creates that high standard for you. But also, ultimately, you create a business where your clients just love you, right and for it's truly a win win situation, then and then, you know, you get to have referrals and marketing kind of word of mouth marketing that helps you along the line. But it just creates like, I want to work with entrepreneurs and people who are passionate about what they do, and they truly want to do good in this world. Right. So the way I teach them kind of reflects that.
I love that. I really do. I have a question, right? Because I think there's a there's a certain group of us entrepreneurs that needs to realize when when we're making it all about ourselves before we go and sit down on these discovery calls with coaches like yourself, or myself and you know, because the thing that you're not gonna want to hear is that, you know, you're kind of making this all about you. So what would you recommend to a, let's say new entrepreneur or even more seasoned entrepreneur, how would you recommend that they realize that they are off purpose for the business and now they're just kind of focusing on what they want and it's becoming the all about me show.
Unknown Speaker 29:28
I truly think that when you really do that, it's all about me and swan. I don't think you're attract a lot of people this way because then your marketing and sales are very like a touchy and raspy and salesy and I feel like people get to feel it. And maybe you know, if you're more advanced, you have systems that still bring you clients, but either you have a lot of current client remorse, people are not you know, maybe not buying you don't get small meals or they're even like You know, changing their mind very quickly and say, Oh, I won, I don't want to work with you or whatever. And then because of that, right, because it just comes, okay, it's me, me, me, as opposed to, how can I serve you? Right? How can I help you get? The goal is that you want or overcome the challenges. And of course, I want to be paid fairly. It's not about, you know, not being paid fairly. Right. But when you focus that I think you attract also your best clients. So when you're more Mimimi, you might attract people who are kinda like you and your might not enjoy their interaction, right? As opposed to when you focus on your best clients, and you start thinking about, okay, how can I communicate with them? How can I help them, you attract them, they're super happy to work with you, right? And then you end up I think that I really believe that you will actually have more results best way and definitely have better client clients who stay clients to recommend and so on. So look at your results I was first, I guess that really, she went to your planning.
I love I love your response. I feel like, you know, guys, Maggie just told you guys very nicely, what I'm going to tell you guys very rudely. You don't have any sales, because you're making it all about you. Right, that's a large amount of us and the quickest that you the fastest. Or the faster that you learn to just kind of break that mirror and see through the mirror and see what's beyond the mirror, see the world and beyond the mirror, the faster you'll actually start bringing in sales, and you could actually make it about you like on a yacht somewhere instead of just about you in your room trying to get sales.
Unknown Speaker 31:53
Yeah, that's, yeah, that's a good point.
All right. So what is the what you mentioned that within business, there's a whole lot of personal development, I've been telling people this for years, right? I've been quoted as saying businesses, the best personal development that I've ever came across. What's one trait that you would recommend that every entrepreneur really develop, whether it's a person not yet one personality trait or characteristic that you recommend that each entrepreneur develop?
Unknown Speaker 32:33
I would say it's about. So I would say if we just were to pick one, I would say like to humble confidence. And what I mean by that is that being confident in yourself, that you really have what it takes to create the results that that one that you want, right that you do have what it takes to create the business that you want. And having that confidence that you figure it out. So no matter what happens down the line, you have the capability of figuring it out. So that's one. So that's, that's sort of, but also, I said humble, because you also need to realize where you need to grow, where you need to invest in yourself in order to overcome those challenges, right? Because there was a balance of Yeah, I can do it, I don't need any help. And no matter what I will do it and then have that hard awakening that maybe you are missing some skills, and maybe, you know, you can do it just by, you know, with the current level of skill and knowledge, right? So having that humility to know No, because, you know, I believe that your current mind created the results you have, right? And because if it could create bigger results, you already would up, you already would be thinking at the level that would have created a higher results. So that means that you need to uplevel yourself first, right? Your mindset, your skill sets, and so on, in order for your business to follow your business cannot outgrow your mind. Right, like it's just not possible. So so that's what I would say humble commando humility. Believe in yourself, that you're capable of truly creating whatever your mind conceives. And at the same time, know where you need to grow in order to get there.
Love it, love it. I love the balance within the humble confidence as well. Right? Because everything is about balance. And I think that if we aren't focusing on being balanced, that's when we start finding ourselves in problems. So I love the fact that you presented a very balanced response to that. One, what would you say was your greatest challenge in business and how did you overcome that challenge?
Unknown Speaker 34:56
My Crush challenge was I think confidence and it's More of not believing, rather than thinking I can do at all. And I don't know, it's kind of a, maybe because I'm a woman, maybe because I think as women, we have more of five, or we need to be ready 100%. And if I'm not ready, 100% I can do it and so on. Also, some of it is probably my background, and being an immigrant and so on, but just growing myself to the point to figure out that, yeah, I can figure it out, of course, I need to grow, and I need to invest in myself. But just looking at my life, you know, and my story and realizing that every time I went through, I made some difficult decisions, or life was hard. I just figured it out, you know, like, and remembering that that granting a business is not that much different. Yes, there will be challenges along the way. But if you really committed if you really want to, I have that ability of figuring out and yes, I need to learn it's one thing that was that was the hardest, and I still is still a work in progress thing. And I think we get to a certain level, and then we start thinking about a higher level and that that lack of confidence creeps in again, well, but you've never done that before, right? So who do you think you are? You can then that's the first thing you need to Yes, it's a different level of confidence, but you just don't need to grow that. So once you're past that, then again, you can pretty much I truly believe as human beings, we can learn anything we want, if we commit to it, and we believe that we can.
No, I definitely agree with that. I think I'm on the other end of the spectrum, right? Where confidence was never really my issue. It's, um, I will run out and jump into situations that I am 150,000% not ready for. Right? Get the experience, and then sit back to go and say, Okay, well, here's the plan on how I'm not gonna do that again. Right. But it's, I'm not recommending that that's how people do it. Right? Like, by no means am I saying go out and jump in to every situation and figure it out while you're there. Right? That, that works for me a good percentage of the time, but there's situations where it doesn't work out. And when it doesn't work out. It really, really doesn't work out. Right. But what I've learned is, it has actually taught me to be a little bit more humble, right? Because I don't tell myself No, I say let the world told me no. Right. And sometimes it's looking at the landscape. And, you know, one of the things that I realized that I needed to be humble about and I always need to pay attention to, is pay attention to the people within the industry that I'm going to be jumping into pay attention to the people within the group that I'm going to go speak to or that I'm participating in. Know, if I say I want to be the best rapper alive, you know, it may, it may benefit me to pay attention to know who the best rapper is and how he may feel about that. Before I go running my mouth, and that's, that's some of the things that I've learned, right? I think I'm one of the most arrogant things I've ever done. And it's embarrassing. The thing about it now is I sent an email to the best motivational speaker at the time. And I wasn't even outside, I wasn't getting profane paid professionally to do speeches at all. And I said, I'm going to be better than you by the age of 26. And it was like, like, oh, I asked him, right, like so I'm that guy. And I'm saying like, okay, I get it logically, writing those checks, forces you to just kind of jump out there and to really try to make it work, but be strategic about how you do that. If you are like myself,
Unknown Speaker 39:17
you know, like it's, Hey, we're not perfect. None of us right. And I think that we all like as we go, we just encounter challenges that make us grow, right. So in your case might be okay, I'm very bold and I, I I don't care. I think I can do it. And then unless the world tells me No, and then that teaches me humility. On my end is more. You cannot wait till you're 100% Ready, because that's not how business works. You have to go out there and be bold, and deal with failure or be ready, right, do it and then grow yourself. So from my end, like the growth has just be BOPE, right? The people older and don't wait, and it's okay to fail. And it's okay to, to not have the results every single time you want. Because you learn this way, there's a big growth. And if you do evaluate, right, if you don't do like the definition of insanity, I do the same thing over and over expecting a different result, you can actually compound that grow just by developing the skill and then learning from the experience. And there's, there's truly no other way, right? You can just read the bugs and become a master have a skill, no, you can have the theory all you want. But then there's a theory and there's a life, you know, putting it into practice in life, like even you know, you're probably interested in sports, like if you think about sports team, or any sports athlete professional, they have a strategy before they go out there in the court. And then they put it out there. And sometimes it works great, better than they expected. And sometimes it doesn't. And it's not like they're not skilled and one, but it's just putting stuff out there in reality works. Yeah, but what do they do after they watch the games that watch the competitions they learn? Right? And that's how they grow on top of just practicing their skill and, you know, outside of the competition? So no,
I definitely agree with that. I think, you know, if you are going to find yourself in any arena where people are already successful in that arena, you know, maybe don't copy them, but definitely pay attention to what they're doing. Right. It's in terms of some of the strategies that they're using, because it's not all bad, right? If there is any bad, it's not all bad. And if they, you know, if there is something good, you want to pay attention to what they're doing, right, right, no need to reinvent the wheel there. Yeah, I'm with you.
Unknown Speaker 41:54
Yeah, and I agree with you. It's not about copying, because copying just makes you a second version of them, or like a fourth version of them, or whatever you want to send out. You want to be who you are, because that's you know how your people will get attracted to you. But as he's saying, no point of reinventing the wheel, just being strategic about what you're gonna use and why you're using it, and so on.
All right. So now at this point of the podcast episode, we normally step into a story for a story, Maggie, you're going to share a story with me he it could be a wild crazy story. It could be about business, it could be about personal, it could be about whatever you want to make it about. But I'm gonna match your level. And I'm going to share a story back with you.
Unknown Speaker 42:39
Okay. Oh, wow. So give me some tips. Like I could share my story.
So we've had all types of stories I've had. The my go to example is I had a guy talk about how he snuck back into the US from Mexico through tunnels. I've had driving around in a foreign country naked in a car stories. We've had all types of stories. We've had it Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 43:15
Oh my god. Um, you know, I would just share a quick like, story. Maybe? Oh, okay. You know what, I'm going to actually share something from communist regime because not that you probably didn't have a guest who, who lived in under communist regimes? No, I had no area ago. All right. So here's one story, or a couple of stories with similar things. So yes, I'm probably the last generation that actually remembers a little bit. I was 11 when communist regime collapsed in Poland. And so I still remember times where there was not much in their stores like not to mention stores outside of grocery stores, but even in grocery stores like there wasn't much going on there. And families were given like, coupons for meat every month. So it was rationed. You only had a certain amount of meat per month per family member. And it's in you weren't even guaranteed that meet because it depended on where you lived in the store. So some of the stories are that a if there was a delivery people would like line up like for concerts you know, at 6am Morning, waiting to hopefully get in the line to the point that when the store opened you got something out of it, or me pretending to be a child of my neighbor because for example, coffee was also a very luxurious goods and they would only give you like one small pack per family member. So then as kids we would pretend to be children of our you know, our neighbors get coffee. They have enough to the next and so on. So here are some funny stories. There weren't there weren't so funny probably from our parents, but you know, as a child, you're taken differently and you're kind of like,
ya know, you figure out how to make
Unknown Speaker 45:18
you become very resourceful. When you're not, you know, when your things are missing the first night.
I love it, I love it. Okay, so, okay, similarly, I will tell you a resourceful story. And this one is actually pretty funny. I think you'll you'll get a kick out of this one, right. So. So I grew up in Brooklyn, New York, right? Actually, I grew up on the street name was Hancock. So Hancock between Bedford and Austin, and everybody on the block knew mean they knew my mom, right? They knew my brother. But you know, this is still Brooklyn, New York, Bed Stuy in the 90s. Right? So right over on the next street, which was Jefferson, there was always gunshots, right? That sort of thing. So, you know, just imagine that type of neighborhood, right? Maybe there was a break in on the block this day, maybe there wasn't, but people are constantly watching. And everybody knows who's who. It's that type of neighborhood. Right? Well, I famously lost my keys a lot, right? The benefit to that was, you know, really no benefit. But the good part was, I didn't live too far from the school. So I would be, I would run back to the school to see if I left it at school, I would run back home. But this day, I did not find my keys. Right. So I said, What the heck, I'm not staying outside until my mom gets home. Right? Maybe I left them in the house, right? Well, the only way to figure that out is to get into the house. Well, we lived on the second floor. And where my the building was, was there was this steps going down to the entrance, right? And then there was like, these little ledges so this is brown stones, right? I start climbing up on the ledges I get to my window. Right. And people who know me are walking paths and they're going, boy, what are you doing? I left my keys in the house. Right? So as my mom like so I've break in to my bedroom window.
Unknown Speaker 47:38
Did you break the window? Or you just Yeah, I
managed to like Jimmy had to open and figure out that I could open it outside. So I get home. I get inside my mom comes home and now my mom is talking to me. So it's like so you decided that you was going to show the entire neighborhood? How to how to break into my house number one and number two, that your little ass could break into houses. That's what you decided he was gonna show up. I was like, I had to get inside. I don't. But I had already I was like, bummer. You know, I don't break into nobody's house and she was like, No, don't do it. So yeah, that was how I was very resourceful. And I got my keys were inside. Like he's worried they were
Unknown Speaker 48:28
okay. Yeah. That reminds me of his story. But that was I was taping small we lived we lived also in an apartment block, but on like a third or fourth floor. And then once I think my mom was in a hospital and my parents are divorced so my grandma was there to take care of us and our door was the way that if you forgot the key at home and you locked it you would lock yourself up so it wasn't like a handle that or you could just remember and I think I was sort of friend and my grandma went to like the basement of the building we had like a where you could save whatever jams and stuff you know like in the basement of the building you had like a little storage unit and we were locked out so she actually called the fire it was spent trying to paint with the ladder like a big scene and the neighborhood came up with the ladder and but they had to because our Windows perfect goes about there was like this small window like very small little window that was hoping in the in the kitchen and then they somehow got in the door
that would not have happened on my blog. We would have grabbed the smallest kid and like look
Unknown Speaker 49:48
whatever it takes, right?
Oh, no, no you but I'm glad that um, you know as a kid, one of the things that I made sure that cap was I kept that resource for them. That's right. Yeah. And I think that plays a big role with me being an entrepreneur now. So it's nice to talk to somebody who has similar stories of how they had to be resourceful and, you know, they're, they're doing the thing as well, I appreciate. Okay, so wrapping it up, what's one last thing that you would leave our audience with? Right?
Unknown Speaker 50:27
Um, I would say that that, as I said, you can definitely achieve whatever you want, and create the results you want. But at the same time to do it, grow yourself I always say you know, you are a leader of yourself first before you can lead a business or family or whatever. So, so have that humility in your confidence to know where to grow and grow yourself and you will get to where you want to go.
And where can our guests where can our listeners find you? Where can they reach out to you? And where can they get a hold and figure out what's going on with your services if they're looking for a business coach.
Unknown Speaker 51:12
So the best way is through my website, which is stairway to leadership.com. In there I have a bit about me about my services. There's like links to my social media if you want to follow me or check out what what I'm all about and stairway to leadership.com.
For the rest of you listening, go be great
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