I'm thinking to put all this in my book bag because I'm from the streets the air. Yeah. What's going on? It's your boy ambition and welcome to another episode of The my FB podcast. And today with me, I have a mompreneur and so much more. She is a true to life podcast or she started with a true crimes podcast and then moved, dug deeper into podcasting and has been working with in cars, the cosmetology field for years. So, you know, here to share with us how she manages this all how she's juggling. All of it is Miss Kayla waters. How you doing, Kayla?
Good? How are you? I'm glad to be here.
I'm glad you're here too. And I'm pretty good. Pretty good. So tell us this the secret to how are you juggling all of these things? Right? Because I got a couple of those things on my plate myself. And I need some tips. So help me out.
Oh, there is no secret. You know, sometimes I think we are all just like putting in the work and trying to survive as we go. I definitely think there are other things in my life that unfortunately suffer like my house. It's always messy and crazy. Because I'm working on business and my kids all the time. I always think to myself, like if I could wake up at 5am, seven days a week, my life would be incredible, right? So I think that would be a great secret to keeping yourself like on track having the extra time in the morning before other people are awake. However, I'm not always the best at it. I would love to be in the 5am club every single day.
But I love the fact that you just kind of said, hey, my house is messy sometimes, because I think we we can tend to forget, like we're juggling so many things. It's okay, if something falls off, so long as it's within the schedule to get it back on track shortly. Right. Taking some time from somewhere else. And using it isn't a bad thing. So you know if there's any moms out there listening or dads, right, give yourself a break, make the kids clean it up.
Yeah, give yourself some grace. Like we're just doing the best I can I think it's hard enough to keep up on all your like household chores and like daily tasks when you don't have anything else going on, let alone when you're juggling, you know kids and working in a business and whatnot.
Right. And I get it, I totally get it. So. Okay, so here's the million dollar question. Yes. You have podcasts that you have episodes scheduled, right? And you're being featured on podcasts and recording episodes for your podcast. How do you schedule everything out? Right? How do you manage that?
Yeah, so I manage it through like a planner I write in for some reason, having like a written book feels so much like, greater to me than the technology. I do also manage it through technology, you know, I've got a calendar link. And I work with a website and I have all my stuff on my dashboard. However, I think having it right there in front of me where I can just take it around with me look at it. I think that's very important for some people, especially if you didn't grow up fully immersed in the whole, like technology world, right? Nice to just have like a piece of paper, you write it down. Try to keep track of everything via something you could have with you all the time.
No, I definitely agree with that. Um, no, I myself, I'm a tech native, right. And I've been in technology for going on 12 years. So cybersecurity professional. And, you know, all of those skills really helped me out when I'm doing this sort of stuff. Because I can do everything on my phone. I'm like, let me jump over to notes. Let me have the reminders. I have the screen that has my entire schedule, right.
So like technology is crazy advance like it is so nice to be able to have so much on like a phone that fits in your pocket.
Right. Have you so I know I've run into this a lot. Have you talked to anyone about you know, maybe them getting into podcasting and they go well, you know, I don't know anything about that technology stuff. Have you? Have you gotten that con kind of conversation?
Oh, yeah, for sure. People are like I don't even know how to do that. And the thing for me is like me either. I was not into tech at all. Like you kind of said at the beginning. I've been in a cosmetology business for the last eight years. So when I started thinking about podcasting, I didn't know anything. I ordered bad equipment. I tried recording with it. It was not good. Like I had to reorder things. It took me a bow a full year to learn the ins and outs of like editing. What I'm doing even when I went to launch my first episode, like there's so much you have to do online and whatnot. I was up to like 2am trying to figure it out. I'm like my launch dates tomorrow. And I just tell people like you can learn you can do it just like jump in into it. I actually had someone text me the other day she was. She's thinking about starting her own business, not podcasting, but just like a business where she's selling things. And she's like, how do you learn about marketing? And how do you learn? Like, how to build a website? And how do you learn all this stuff? And I was like, I did it. I just started doing it. And I'm still learning as I go.
Well, I mean, you can always send her my way, right? Like, that's exactly what I do. Right? I just, I literally just finished and threw up a clarity course and entrepreneur clarity course, it's a excellent way. And we're gonna chop this short because it feels kind of I don't want to talk about this too much. But, you know, it was really cool to put it together. And what inspired it was I have a mentor who has a ton of people that he's taught about business and that he's, you know, basically put a lot of money in the hands of, right. And I asked him one asset, has anybody bought you a business plan or a presentation that was well put together? He was like, No, it's like, so none of the people that you've taught, have come to back to you and say, here's how we can make money together, you know, so I wanted to put that system together where everybody could feel like they had something and confidently communicate what their business was about. Right? Oh,
that's amazing. I'm going to send her that link. Because I was like, I have no idea.
Oh, yeah, no, I sit down and I scheme on coming up with businesses. I, I gave myself a challenge. I think it was 2017. I was like, You know what, I got two kids, I'm going to put together a business that will help me get the furniture for the kids room. Because I don't want to do anything like that. Right, like, so. I ended up it took me two weeks to come up with the website, the logo, the branding was all put together. I already had a business filed. So I just launched a quick DBA so I could get it done. And then it was just finding the manufacturers for the toy for the toddler furniture and kids furniture. And once I did it and then finally got it all the way together. I was like, I don't really care about this city.
You're like, yeah, I lost my passion.
Yeah. But that gets I'm that guy.
I love it. You know what, like, start thing. See if you love it, see if you could do it. Right and just not your thing. You can move on.
Right? And but I wouldn't be where I am. If it wasn't for things like that. Like this wasn't my first podcast idea. My first podcast idea was actually pretty terrible. Right? What was it? It was, I was gonna call it Devil's avocation. And it was going to be highly controversial topics like the first episode was going to be right. I do believe in pro choice, right. I do believe a woman should have no right to do whatever she wants to do with her body. But much like Dave Chappelle said, Okay, what about the man's right to say, I don't want anything to do with this. Right. So I wanted to have that conversation and whether I believe that stance or not give a reasonable Yeah, just give a reasonable argument as to why that should maybe be considered
the devil's advocate. I actually think it sounds so interesting
that I still want to do it. But it's trying to figure out now how does it fit within the purpose and the mission of everything? So
yeah, I totally get that. That's funny. You mentioned Dave Chappelle. We are going to him next week. I love him. Really? Yep. Utah, which isn't far from here. So he
has been doing a lot of shows in the Midwest, huh? Yeah. Yeah. I think that's pretty awesome for you. Awesome. You gotta send me a picture or something. Right? Like, yes, absolutely. But yes, I will. Okay, so what is your next steps within business? I know, you talked about the two podcasts that you have and starting podcasts, businesses, what's your next step? What's the next biggest thing for you?
So with podcasting, I feel like it's definitely a long haul game, I'm sure you've heard of like the statistics around pod fade, and like, even kind of overcoming that one year hump and whatnot. So my plan is obviously to keep growing like I planned this whole time to like, stick with this for at least five years to see how much I can get it to grow. So with that, like I said, I've lost, I've launched the two podcasts. I hope I have other ideas. Like, I feel like I always have an idea for a podcast, especially surrounding that true crime genre where people can really gain like an education. There's a lot of things that have happened that I feel like wow, like, the public needs an education on this specific topic to bring awareness to it or whatnot. So I have lots of ideas and under that network, I hope that these podcasts I'm doing right now. I'll be able to grow them in the next few years, to the point where I can have a little bit of help and be able to get my other ideas off the grounds or possibly bring in, you know, other people to host podcast with the ideas that I'm thinking of. So that's the goal. Like I said, it's a long haul game. So like I'm in it right now. I'm doing the girl thing, and I plan on it growing and being able to do all of that stuff.
Man, that is an that's an amazing strategy. Right? And I'm saying that's an amazing strategy, because I literally just recorded an episode. My last episode was with a guy named David combs. And, you know, he wrote a song in 1987. Right, and he started taking his music career seriously in 1992. And we were joking about it. I was like, I was born in 91. Right? Like, we're, like, doing this my whole life, right? He's been doing writing music and making music my whole life, right? And he talks about how he broke down what's now the gift shop market of music. And he, he expressed exactly that it's a game of consistency right? over 30 years and 15 albums later. How many millions of dollars has he made from easy going music? Right, like things that people wouldn't think it has really made him a lot of money. So I definitely agree with you take the long game, right? Yeah,
it take the long game, like if it, you know, is take I think a lot of people jump into things, even business in general, like I've seen it with in even the cosmetology business I do. A lot of people jump into things thinking like this is going to be easy money, nope. Like, they want to work from home. And that feels like, Oh, I'm not going to be working. But they don't realize that in order to make money, you are going to have to work hard. And you're going to do it for a long time. So after six months, I see all these people quitting, whether it's in podcasting, or cosmetology, they're like, Oh, well, this wasn't that easy. So now I'm done.
And, you know, what, what the, what I wish somebody would have told me about entrepreneurship. If you're gonna build the product base, or service based business, the number one thing that you need to learn is how to deal with clients, and how to deal with customers. Because they are far more disrespectful than, like, if you were working at like a cash register, they would respect you far more than you actually being the business owner, when they know they're talking to you. It's like, what is this, we had a, you know, from people requesting $10 logos, to just being utter waste of time, right? Like, you really do have to pay attention to your processes, and have a system in place for how you're going to deal with that stuff. Otherwise, you're going to end your days very frustrated, you're going to be broke. And you're going to have given a bunch of time to a bunch of people who don't want to invest in you, and it's going to make you feel like shit. And that is a true to life entrepreneur moment.
I 1,000% agree. Like you have to have boundaries and how you're going to deal with these people. Because yes, they are very hard.
Yeah. It's the Shouldn't you respect the fact that I'm the customer, it's whatever ends up but you don't know what you're talking about? Right?
I'm the expert, though. Right? This is I 1,000%. Agree.
So that is something for any of you guys listening? Definitely keep your eye out for. Okay, so let's talk the big one, right? When we get a podcast or on anybody talks to a podcast, and they want to know, the big question is monetization strategy. Hmm.
So like I said, I just launched a year ago, so I didn't plan on making any money for like, the first year or two even I have made a little bit though. So I've been glad. But I kind of went into it knowing like, I'm not going to just make money this first month, right? Like, I'm gonna really have to put in the work really push out quality content and what, and since I have been able to grow, I have been able to do that, but you kind of like the money's not just going to come you have to actively be working for it. So you have to go out there you have to find the sponsors, and you have to talk with people and you have to network with people. And honestly, I It's funny, because I feel like I'm somewhat of an introvert in that way. However, with podcasting, I have learned to be able to, you know, talk with people really easy and whatnot, but networking and really asking for that sponsorship or putting myself out there, it feels a little awkward, but you kind of just have to step out of your comfort zone and really do that. So right now that's what I've been doing in you know, that strategy, just like putting myself out there talking with people and then as that comes and as my show grows, hopefully that monetization will also just like snowball growth with that.
Nice nice I definitely agree with that, do you think that um, and this is my personal opinion of it right? If I'm stepping to someone and asking them to be a sponsor for the my FB podcast that's different than me asking them to be a sponsor of ambition Phillips, right. So that gives me like the utmost confidence, the fact that I've removed my personal brand from the sponsorship, and I've created this environment where my personal brand works for my business. I'm never asking for money for myself, I'm always asking for money for my business. And that gives me it gives me a lot of confidence when asking for money, because I have my mission in mind. Right? Like, what did I set out to do? It was like, yeah, so now it's a conversation of, hey, do you believe in this mission? Because if you do, then let's get some. Yeah, put your money where your mouth is?
Yes, I actually love the outlook on it. Like, that's an incredible way to look at it. Because it is normally you know, most people that are doing a podcast are doing it for a reason. They're, you know, they're putting their voice out there to, you know, spread information about something. So yeah, I think by doing it, you're branding it sponsor me for this brand. In this reason they are they first of all, are far more likely to do it than if you're saying sponsor me, sponsor me, Kayla waters, versus like sponsor this podcast and what this podcast is all about. So I love that.
Right? And I mean, some people got that it factor, right? Where people just like, they do want to sponsor you, right? Whether it's because it's only fans, or it's because you make the best music ever, but also look like Chris Brown. I don't get it. Right. Like whatever reason people want to sponsor you is whatever reason they want to sponsor you. But I know I've never gotten by on my good looks. All my good looks have gotten me is hey, you're cute. You're handsome, and more annoying things. And it's brought me good things but
Right. Totally agree.
Same for you. I know what's getting
sponsored based on me. People aren't like, oh my gosh, I'm obsessed with you as a person. Let me write money.
They're not like, you know what, one half of your hair is black and the other blonde, and I want to
give, and I love it. So can I please sponsor you as a person. But
people really think that people really think that's the way it's gonna happen. They think that they're gonna put on makeup or that they're going to put on designer clothes, and that they're going to put on a big gold chain, or they're going to put on Prada shoes, or red bottoms, and that people are going to support them because they want to support the lifestyle of them wearing nice shit, right? Nobody cares about you wearing nice shit. They want to figure out how to get their own nice shit.
Yes, 1,000%, one of the best things I ever heard was like, people care a lot less about you than you think that they do. Yeah. And that was good for me, even with putting myself out there with the podcast, because I was so worried for so long about, like, how are people going to view me? What are they gonna think? Are they gonna like it? And it's like, they don't care that much about you specifically, but yet, you're putting something good out there. If you're putting good content out there. That's what matters. And that really was like, I was able to shape my mindset with like, yeah, I want to be known for what I'm doing. Not like what I'm wearing. You know,
that that makes a whole lot of sense, right? And I feel the same way, right? Like I went through this whole sprint of being in corporate America. So when I first started wanting to be a motivational speaker, I put on a suit and tie because I thought that was how it was done. I was trying to be like Les Brown. But I'm like, This isn't me. Right? So but now I am the way that I am. This feels comfortable if you invite me to come speak, right. I know that there's a respect for the person that I am. And the content that I can speak about, not just that I look a part. Right. And that's, that's, I think, what our generation is really trying to avoid I think millennials, like we hate looking apart.
Yes, I agree.
We can't stand to look the part is like, oh, so what I look like a plumber to you. Do I look like? Do I look like a podcaster? I want to look like me. Right? Exactly.
I totally get that. It's even, like sometimes I do, like, I so much want to be myself even like with, you know, my different hair. It's like, oh, do I look like a mom? No. Like, I'm going to look like me. Like you're not gonna look at me and think, oh, that's just a mom of two just doing the mom life. It's like, No, you're gonna be shocked that I'm a mom.
I love that because I feel like those those judgments in those roles that we kind of cast people into it stifles our genius like I've talked to so many people that I just have fell in love with their stories, right? Like I mentioned the guy from last week. David combs he was Southern Baptists. You know, very Christian Like, I was in a cult growing up, and it was a Christian based call. So I have not been to church in years, right. Like, I don't really care. Right. But I loved his story. Right. And I fell in love with his story. And it reminded me, look, everybody has value to give. We've had everyone from intimacy coaches today, traders, Hypnotherapist. I'm also done cool. Yeah, you should check out that episode.
It's episode. For sure. Yes. Okay. Yep. That
one's cool. Um, and then now, I have a, we've had a mom coaches on right. So that's another cool episode, you should check out. She was really awesome. Because she was. There was one way she was talking about how to get dad to help. And I don't want to take over the podcast with this. But she was talking about how to get dad to help. And she was like, yeah, just drop them on them. Just drop the kid on him and just got
No, I totally agree. There's a lot of people, I have a ton of friends who, like, they don't necessarily they can't get their husbands to help. But yeah, they like don't want to force them into it. And it's like, my kids. They're with their dad all the time, because I'm working all the time. Like, he has to watch them. He it like, there's no option just
I think I have like a pride thing. So you got to inspire men's sense of competition. Right? Like, you can't really look at them and be like, what type of Dad Are you because they're really going to take offense to that. But it's like for me. Know what, you're you're going to stop believing that just because you're a mom, you're a better parent than me. Like I feel like that's the way I put it up. Like what you think I can't watch the kids. I watched the kids better than you. They like me better than you.
Oh, my husband's was same way. My baby. She's one years old loves him. She does truly like him more than me. It is hurtful. And he loves it. Every time she goes over to him. He kind of looks at me. And he's like, Well, it does feel good.
Right? But okay, so all the moms listening, you have to let the kids choose them. And then be like, see, they like you better
out? Oh, yeah, that's what I the other day. She was like really bothering him. My baby's very whiny, hard baby. Second child humbled me as a mom, for sure. And she's very needy. And, you know, we're always just laughing about how she likes him more. And I'm like, What the heck, like, I'm your mom. But she was really needy the other day. And I told him, I'm like, Well, that's what you get when she likes you more. Now you are the one who has to deal with her all the time, because she wants you so have fun with that. I'm gonna go do my thing. And you can deal with her.
No, I totally get it. I totally get it. Okay, so what's okay, so, five years of the podcast, let's say you grow. And you and I both know what's already happening. I bet you a ton of people are hitting you up asking you how to start podcasts. Right? I know they're doing it because they're doing it to me. And I'm like, yo, I'm only 30 episodes. And bro, I'm still figuring this out. I just figured out how to get better audio quality through zoom yesterday. And this is the setup that we're having. So I love it. So what were in your path? Do you think maybe a podcasting course would be? No, maybe you don't got to compete with Pat Flynn. But it's got to be out there. So when people actually can support,
like creating one like, Yeah, this is how you do it. Yeah, I haven't thought about that a lot. But I do think it is very valuable for someone who has learned the ins and outs. So honestly, probably a few years. And because like I said, I'm almost one whole year in and I still am learning every single day. So I think once you're like three years in four years, and hopefully you've really got the hang of it. You're understanding things like I literally learned a ton more last month, you know, as I launched my second show, there was so much thought went into it. And I was like, Oh my gosh, I don't I don't even know anything about podcasting, and I've been podcasting for the last year. So yeah, after a few years, when you've got like that expert knowledge, I do think that's very valuable to put out there. Whether you do it like on YouTube or in in another podcast or you know, a course that you sell online. I think that is actually a very cool idea.
So one thing I will say is, I, I hear from a lot of people who kind of, they're starting their podcasts and they're heavy on the preparation, right? Like some people do scripts, I'm not sure if you're one of the people who do scripts, but I really can't do that. Right. So it's really kind of one thing I try to tell people is, you know, if you're somebody who needs to over prepare, then understand that it's going to take you longer to generate an episode and plan for that. And if you're somebody who can't stand being, you know, can't stand all the preparation and prep work, and you just want to put it out, then go ahead and record and understand it's going to take you a while to get good enough to where you feel like maybe even releasing that. But if you've got it together, and you feel confident enough to release it, and that's my opinion anyway, like release it, regardless of whether you think it's good or not, because yes, you will be surprised what people love. Go ahead and release it. But I'm not big on preparation. How do you feel about preparation?
So I have two different podcasts. And they're two completely different on preparation. So I actually started my second podcast, I went on this one podcast, the Josh Terry podcast, and I interviewed with him. And he was like, how often like, do you put out an episode with True Crime exposed, and I was like, once a week, maybe, you know, maybe a bonus episode here and there. And he's like, you've got to put out more content, like you should do one, like, every single day. And you should do this of that. What's funny is like with true crime, you really can't do that. It, you can do a couple or depending how much you work. But you do have to prepare because you are researching a case. I can't remember all the dates and the names, like the police's names and the family's names and the date they were born and all of that stuff. I can't remember that stuff without preparing it. So I do for true crime expose, I do put about 10 to 20 hours of preparation into an episode. Wow, you get it out there. Because researching and writing, that episode takes so long. So when he was talking about doing more content, and he was like, you don't even have to do it around true crime. I was thinking, well, that's kind of what that podcast is. So that's when Yeah, so when I started my other podcast, and that's what most true crime podcasts do. They do about one a week or so and, you know, they'll have bonus content and whatnot. So I decided to start that second podcast, the alpha betches podcast. And with that one, I'm with you, like no preparation. And it's nice, we put out two episodes a week. And it's, it's easy like we hop on we record, I do edit it a little bit just because as we I've been having having to edit less, like you said, as you get into it, and you kind of really learn the flow of each other because I do have a co host, and you kind of understand what you're doing, then you do, you're able to get that content out easier. So I think there's pros and cons to both. If you're doing something where you're talking and you're having conversations, I think it's great to just let the conversation flow to let it go, where it's going to go and not over prepare for it, you're gonna get content out easier, you're gonna get even more like deep conversation and things that you wouldn't expect. And then on the flip side, if you're doing a show, like the true crime one or something where you do have to have research and dates correct, you do kind of have to, you know, at least prepare a little bit.
The only thing I will tell anyone out there who is trying to start a conversational podcast, or an interview based podcast, I literally do no preparation, because I really just love feeding off of the energy of the person. Right? You, I trust entrepreneurs to know the information that they want to present to people. If they're showing up in their own podcast, I trust them to be able to present their business as well. And they all do that. So once we get past that it's getting into stories. And then the next thing is smooth transitions in between topics. Right? And you're good. Once you do that, you got some smooth transitions, you're good to go. You can have an awkward pause in there. Like literally in my episode that I just released. awkward pause in the end, she was like, oh my god, please cut this out. I was like, and I'm not gonna cut this out.
Like this is it? This is like, the podcast. It is what it is. Right?
She's like, it's gonna bug me. It's like so you know what's in there? I literally recorded it. That's what went up on my stories to promote the episode.
Right? No, I totally get that. And I do have people with that other podcast, we interview, you know, random people, like all all sorts of topics, no topics off limits, and but I have had people be like, can we prepare? Like, like, what questions are you going to ask me? I'm like, I can give you a general basis of what I'm going to ask. But we're just we're just going for it. We're just talking.
I swear. It's the it's the manliest response that people get from me and people must think this. They're gonna come interview with like, I have no idea. They're like, you have any preparation. I was like, no, no, no preparation, man. Oh, good. They're like, Oh, okay. Yeah, like just and but it's led to some of these really genuine moments. And it's really amazing to see how much value gets extracted from people when they're unprepared because they still come with all of these wonderful answers and all of these gems, but it's it feels real. It's an authentic moment. And you can't put a price on that.
Yeah, totally. And I think when you're having just a conversation that's flowing, things are going to even come to your mind that you wouldn't have prepared for things that you're going to be reminded of when someone asks you a question. You weren't ready for it. It's like, brings out this memory or like this thing, you know, you can talk about or have knowledge on. So yeah, definitely puts out more authentic content. All right,
so we talked about monetization, we talked about structure and preparation, right? You have two totally different podcasts. Now let's talk growth, right? Like, how do you grow a podcast? And it I'll share a little bit of my experience, like, the most difficult thing that I've had to market was my podcast, I think it's much easier for me to go on Instagram and blow up a page, right? Or it even seems easier for me to get a landing page out and get eyes on that. But you actually have to get people to like the podcasts. Yes. So and
listen to it.
Right. So how do you go about that far.
So I started off with social media, obviously. And that actually can be kind of hard for me posting on social media every day. And like just having the content. It has been a work in progress. Tick tock has been like my greatest tool, which is funny, but like people on their love, true crime and some of the stories so I've been able to grow a pretty great following on that I'm happy with my other social medias, you know, it's more of a slow CRO. And but I think that has been a very good tool. It's a good small tool. But for podcasting, you're gonna need like a really broad audience, right. So I've also advertised on some different podcasts, and then things like, like doing this, like interviewing with people and, and like I said earlier, networking with people, and like really putting yourself out there to connect with people who you think you know, you can kind of both give each other value. So I think that's a really good way. And then, yeah, that, like I said, I advertised on another podcast. But I've also been looking into advertising on like Spotify and having a website and just advertising kind of wherever you can, with whatever you can do. If you have a low budget, do things that are low budget or free. But like, Don't ever stop talking about your podcast.
No, I definitely agree with that. One thing I'm going to actually recommend to people is Cora. If you answer questions on Quora, and they can lead back to something if you have like an informational podcast, that may be a great one for you to work out. Because people are asking those questions anyway. And then guest blogging. So I want to throw that out there as an invitation to you. If you wouldn't mind writing, I guess blog, I would definitely throw that up on my website.
Okay. Absolutely. That's cool. I have like, never even thought of that in connection. So
yeah, if you do like guest blogging, or because it's it works out the same as podcasting. If we both have a website, and someone shows up on my website, and we're looking at, you know, the blogs and how we advertise our blog. So one way we're advertising our blog right now is on Pinterest. So we have Pinterest visuals that go out and then people are going to go look at the blog. So the very same way you could advertise a podcast as well. Pinterest straight to the podcast. But both of those, I would definitely do that, especially because you could probably find a ton of like true crime blogs that are out there that you could do a guest post for or recommend that they use one of your episodes to as the audio within their blog.
Right. Yeah, no, that is such a great idea that I've never thought of. That's really cool.
I'm glad that I could give it to you. And I hope it works out. Let me know how it works out for you too. Yeah, of course I will. Especially because if it does work out, I'll charge somebody for it later.
Yes, exactly. Like, like K how's this going? Yes. Yeah, no, definitely no, keep in touch on it.
Okay, so now there's time for a segment that we call story for a story. I love it. So you told me a story, right? I usually like to go wild, crazy stories, right, like so we've had people tell us about coming back to Mexico, from Mexico through tunnels, right? We've had wild sex stories. We've had all sorts of stories, right. So whatever you feel to tell, I've actually funny enough. I've had my mom on the podcast with a lady who was talking about menopause, women's health and libido. Right? And my mom is an older beige and woman. So so she He's from Barbados. So she does not believe in smoking cannabis at all. Okay, right. So we piss her off a lot. We hopped on that podcast, and it was like so by the end of it, so what do you think she's like, to each its own
tone like you do her thing. Right, same way.
So whatever story you want to tell we're over four here.
Okay, so I actually kind of have this story. It's somewhat, I guess, funny, but also kind of scary. And since I do the true crime stuff, this will be interesting. So four years ago, I was working in a salon and I had someone call in to get their lashes done. And I, I've mentioned it somewhat on my podcast, but haven't told the full story just because I was like, I don't know. But so they wanted to come in and get their lashes done for this bet. And it was a guy and I was like, great, that'd be awesome. Like, his friends bet him to get his lashes done. So he comes in, and it's clearly not for a bet. And I just want him to, you know, like, be like, own it. Like, it's fine. You're in here, you, you know, you want to get your lashes done. That's totally fine. Well, he,
he really rubbed me the wrong way. And not for that reason, not because he was a man that wanted his lashes done, whether he was getting like a men's haircut, or getting his lashes done. Something about him rubbed me the wrong way. He was actually like more in his 50s. And he just made some comments about a little girl that was outside and some other things. So I felt very uncomfortable working with him. And again, not for that reason that he was getting his lashes done. I've worked with plenty of other people love them that, you know, do that stuff. And so anyway, he leaves and I was like, I just got like an icky feeling from that guy. Like, I just didn't like what he was talking about. I didn't like the comments he made about that little girl. And I've always been into this true crime stuff, right? So then he comes back in eight months later, this time, he brings a wedding dress in and he wants to wear the wedding dress while he's getting his lashes done. Again, if you like you want to do that, that is totally fine. Like come in, like do it. Like you can wear your wedding dress, like what I do your lashes. Like if this is what makes you feel good, great, I'm happy to do it. Again. It's like, he wants it to be my fault. He's doing it. Like he doesn't really want to say he wants to do it. And I get that, like if he's struggling with his identity. But again, there were just some comments that really rubs me the wrong way and made me like feel very uncomfortable. So he couldn't get into the wedding dress at first. So I did actually do his lashes first. And then he got in the wedding dress, I tied it up. And again, he really wanted this to be like my fault. Like I was forcing a minute, like, you're gonna tie this so tight, you're gonna force me to leave in this wedding dress. And I was like, Absolutely not like you can leave in it or you can like, take it off before you leave like that. I'm not gonna force you to do anything you don't want to do and whatnot. So he's sitting out in the hall and the wedding dress, and he comes back in like 20 minutes later, and he offers me $20 To take the wedding dress off of them. And I'm like, Absolutely do not pay me I can untie the wedding dress. Again, I'm not forcing you to like leave in this wedding trust. Anyway, so he leaves and I ended up quitting at that salon. So about a month later, I'm at my mom's house in Utah. And it's six in the morning. And I get this phone call from this number like five phone calls in a row back to back and I'm like, What the heck. So I text the number and I'm like, I'm busy. I mean, I was just sleeping, but I'm like, I'm busy. Stop calling me like who is this? Right? And I don't know, it's him. But it is and he texts me back. And he says, Well, I don't remember because you called me first Who is this? And I was like, No, it's six in the morning. I don't have this number. I absolutely did not call you first Who is this? And then he says, Oh, my name is so and so. And you did my lashes. I need them done again. Well, at this point, I did them at my house. I have two daughters. Like I said there were some comments made about a little girl that I was not comfortable with. So I was like absolutely not texted back and I was like wrong number. I don't do lashes. Well, that was all three years ago. In January of this year, just a couple of months ago. I'm working doing lashes cosmetology and I get all these phone calls from this number. It is just back to back phone calls. Again. I'm not even thinking of the guy from four years ago because it's been four years. So I'm looking on my phone and I'm like why is this number keep calling me so I text it and I say I'm working. If you could let you know who this is. I will give you a call back later when I'm not busy. Well they don't leave like don't text me back, but they leave a voicemail. And they just say, Oh, hey, Kayla call me back by. And it's a man's voice. And I'm like, they know my name. However, they're still not saying who they are like, I wonder who it could be. So I tell my husband like this number keeps calling me and I just have anxiety out the wazoo because of the true friend stuff. So I'm not going to answer a phone call or my doorbell if I do not expect it coming. If I do not know who it is. I'm just like, freaked out about it. So he looks up this number. And all we can find is like this, this reference on like a resume, and it's connected to this name. And I'm like, I swear, that might be the guy who I did his lashes a few years ago, that like really rubbed me the wrong way. But like, there's no way right. That was four years ago, like there's no way. Well, I just ignore it, like, whatever, you know, I don't know who it is. They're not gonna say who they are. So I'm not going to call them back. But like, literally just a week ago, this has been four years since I ever met this person. They call me a bunch more times while I'm working. They leave a voicemail. And I'm like, What the heck that number is calling me again. I forget about the voicemail until that night, and I'm driving home with my husband. And I listened to the voicemail and it says, Hey, Kayla, call me back. I love you. I'll talk to you soon. Bye.
And I was like, Oh, my gosh, who is this? Anyway, we end up looking it up when I get inside. Because I'm like, Who is this? My husband? Like, yeah, call it back, call it back. Like he wants to know who's saying I love you. And I'm like, This is not a young guy. This is not like, like, I think this is that person. But that'd be so weird. And we end up finding an advertisement for the number that very much connects it to the whole wedding dress thing like saying that they're looking for a groom to call and text some nasty pics. And through that I found a Facebook and I connected at all and it is this person that I met four years ago. So it's kind of a funny story. Because it's like this person. I have no idea like who he is really because I met him forever ago, is calling me saying I love you at the same time. I'm like a little scary. You're somewhat of stalking me. I feel because you're saying I love you.
No, definitely. So yes.
So you know, that's been going on. And it's just it makes me laugh. But then I'm like, as long as it stays via the phone. So we'll see if that goes any further if I get any more calls, but
Well, I mean, yeah. Yeah, that's not a very crazy
story. Yeah, no, thank
you know, thank you Gala.
So you know, don't deal with that kind of stuff. But yeah, I
would have been like, yeah, come over meet me at such and such.
Let's be I was just like, oh, my gosh, this is wild. So
I mean, it. Well take care of yourself.
I will Yes, we have security. We've got guns. I know. Yes. Okay. But we we are protected. So.
So whoever isn't, whoever isn't a gun person. That's their business. We want to make sure that you don't get carried off in wedding dresses. We got priorities over here.
I'm not trying to get taken out of my house or whatnot. But yeah, it's crazy. Because you kind of think of that stuff. Like I've talked about this stuff forever. I haven't even talked about it for the last year. And then it's like kind of happening. But if anyone else was telling me it was happening, I'd be like, That's so scary. Like you should be, like really freaked out. And then it's kind of happening to you and you and you're like, Well, is it really a big deal? Or like, is it not, you know, and so it's just kind of like that weird area with people bothering you via phone call or via online or whatnot. They know what to do with it. You're good? Yeah. I've been there before my lights fallen over before.
No, it's fine that the ghosts pushed it over. We were talking. We're going straight into true crimes right into ghost story. So. Okay, so yep, I guess that's my segue. So I owe you a ghost story. Okay, so I'm actually let's do this. My whole family's from Barbados, right? And if you ever hear vagrants tell it. There's all sorts of like, mythical creatures, the things that go bump in the night that I've never heard of in America. But we know all about these things. So we used to call it things like Jambi. And then there's people who do like they cast spells on people we say that's Olbia. Right. Okay. And some of those things get like really dark to the point of where you know if Some people's lifestar Going back they'll go, oh well you're working at somebody's work in O'Boyle and you or somebody's doing work on you. Uh huh. So we'll start thinking in that way. So this is really like a culture, right? There's a culture of understanding that there is dark things out there that people play with that they probably shouldn't. Yeah, right, that that's what the understanding is, and understand also, whether or not you believe in that at the time, I am 12. Right. So I am 12. And I'm saying what my stepfather and he lives about two blocks away from a cemetery. And we have to pass the cemetery to go home. So we pass the cemetery the first night, right? You start feeling a little colder, but it's nothing scary, right? Like you're looking over, it looks a little bit darker in the distance and you're like, Okay, this is scary, but I'm a big boy. Now. I'm 12. I've got this. The growth, right. The grown man isn't scared yet. So I don't need to be scared. Right? The winds blowing and you get the little scare. In the end. I'm like, I don't know what that is. But again, he's not running. I'm good. The second night we go through. And again, it's not like scary. I'm still scared because you know, I'm a little young but again, I'm, I'm rogering up right? And by this time I swear to God, that the man that I'm walking with my stepfather, he's not afraid of anything. Right that this is my thought. Right? The third night comes and we hear something dropped in the cemetery. So we look we think in Okay, we're gonna see somebody in the cemetery and it's kind of weird. You're in the cemetery at night, but whatever do your thing right? Whatever you do is what you do so long as I can see you and you're physically a person. We're fine right? But we look we don't see anything. Okay, that was weird. No need to take off yet. I mean, it's still a cemetery things go bump. We hear it again. Look, me him look at each other. Again, nothing to this day. Right To this day, I don't know what it was that fell on us whether it was a tree branch or if it was like a little plant. I don't know what it was but I know that we both felt something touch us. And instantly we both took off running. So we we took off running we're running running running running we get in the house, he I jumped in my bed he jumps in my bed with me and grabs the Bible and that's how we went to sleep that night so that's
love it you're like No, that was definitely something Yeah, I
don't care what it was. Very. Yeah, I'm not waiting to figure it out.
No, no, I do not know if I could handle like a ghost thing or like a haunting like it's never happened to me probably because I feel like I'd have a straight heart attack and die. So I would not have handled that. Well.
No, I don't blame me. I'm not I didn't handle it. I ran
I was out of there. I love that he grabs a Bible pop somebody's like we are we're safe. We brought the Bible with us we're good now.
I was already asleep my whole thing was if I'm gonna die let it be in my sleep. I don't want to see it.
Like get there your adrenaline's going to yeah and you're like I am out
okay so closing out what is one thing that you would leave our our guests with?
I would just like everyone to always follow their dreams and like go for it regardless of your situation whether you're a mom whether you feel like you are you know a person with the most oh you are
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So is there anything you'd like to leave our guests with?
So I always just want to let people know to definitely follow their dreams go for it if you have a goal if you have something you want to do, no matter what just do it whether you're a mom, whether you don't feel like you know, you're the biggest expert in your field or what you want to talk about, like just put yourself out there, you're going to make a difference if you have a passion for something. So definitely for me, it's always follow your dreams and always just like be authentically you and go for it.
Love it, love it. And where can people get a hold of you? Where can we reach out to you?
So my podcasts are of course on all podcast sites you know, Apple podcast, Spotify, whatnot, I've got a website that people can go to to link there it's www dot True Crime expose podcast.com And then of course I'm on all social media tick tock at True Crime expose podcast Instagram at True Crime x pod Facebook at True Crime exposed podcast and Twitter at True Crime expose so you guys can find me all those places.
All right, and for everybody listening, go be great.
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