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boom, what's going on? It's your boy ambition. And we're back at it with another episode of the MYFB podcast. And today with me, I have a young man that has gathered a small community of men around him and started help them to start their healing journey. I have with me, King ref, aka ref. Man, what's the other aka is man I feel like you. You like the nickname King out here.
Oh man, I had a lot of nicknames coming up. You know, King ref is probably the only nickname I came up with myself to be honest. So I'm very, you know, happy about that. Another thing too. What inspired the name? King rev was always felt like I didn't think like other people. You know, I always thought like, I always felt like internally, I was like a king. And that's pretty much what inspired it. Honestly.
Gotcha, gotcha. All right. So this community that you built, right? Particularly being, you know, birthed out of the red pill community. Talk to us a little bit more about what the red pill community actually is, a lot of our listeners may not know. So teach us a little song.
Alright, so the red pill community is a community where they is a community of guys, where they are inspired by the movie, The Matrix, because the matrix is is more, they utilize the red pill, and they utilize the blue pill. And the blue pill is more like the fantasy. And the red pill is more like reality. So a lot of guys are they took that in relation to women. So what they did was they said, you know, we're gonna call this the red pill. Because this is the reality of dealing with a woman in a blue pill. It's the illusion of what women have what you think women should be like, Hmm. You know, as far as Disney princesses and all that, you know,
all men. So what's really interesting about that is, you know that that kind of brings to mind right away, I always thought like, no women grew up with the fantasies of what men were. But you know, right off the bat, you're, you know, letting us know, men also have these fantasies of what women are supposed
to be. Yes.
All right. So let's talk about what are some of those fantasies that men have? Like, what are the ways that we romanticize a woman's actuality from the idea of a woman? And how do you feel that really hurts our relationship? So women?
Um, well, it really comes down to the root of where it stems from a lot of guys, you know, they've been, because I mean, let's face it, most of us, in our earliest years have a closer relationship to our mothers. Right? You know, even if it's not a positive one, we just have that, because she's around, you get what I'm saying the most, right? Not saying fathers aren't around, but just normally, just normally, like, on average, you know, most children are around their mothers, especially in their earliest ages. So they, they end up thinking, like, because mom takes care of me good. Because Mom is, you know, doing what she can for me to maximize her ability. Woman, any woman I'm with is going to be like that as well. That's, that's where that illusion oftentimes starts because Mommy is doing all this for me. But then the reality is, a lot of men, they face that brutal reality like, nah, this ain't. This is not how I perceive women a B, because the original woman I'm so accustomed to was not like that. Or those traits, that the negative traits of the woman I'm currently dealing with. I did not see that from my mom. So it creates a level of confusion.
Right, and I think one of the biggest problems with that is that um, regardless of whether or not you've seen it in your mother was probably present, right? Like, you probably just weren't the person dealing with that. But um, I think a lot of boys start to realize realize as they get older, you're gonna start dealing with a lot of those habits and you just got to be realistic about you know, who your mom actually is.
Exactly. Exactly. Another thing to to also keep in mind is that another illusion that guy eyes have oftentimes had is that a woman is going to be there no matter what. You know, that's one of the illusions that a lot of guys initially believe because I mean, let's be honest, like a lot of people they have like codependent, you know, relationships with their moms. Yeah, definitely. So because of that there a lot, a lot of it really stems from how they perceive, you know, mothers to be like, and another thing to the media, the media pushes a lot of, you know, over overly positive female stereotypes. And they downplay a lot of men as well. Okay. So if you look at like The Simpsons or Family Guy, the male characters like Homer and Peter, they looked as dumb, right, whereas the woman, you know, in the show, even though everyone is, you know, they all have the moment. But on a consistent basis, the male characters are viewed as dumber than no female characters.
You know what, you know, I'm definitely not the first person I heard to say that. I remember there was a guy was listening to a couple of years back, and he always brought that up. Because if he brought up if you pay attention to the idea of the husband or the father, and a lot of these sitcoms in the ways that men are being depicted, it's the stupid man and the intelligent, captured woman. Right, where she's, you know, the, the image that's portrayed is that she's basically a slave to his stupidity. Yeah. All right. Yeah. So do you feel like um, so stereotypes kind of spilled over into real life into dating when women dealt with men? And if so, how did they really occur? How did they come up?
Ah, yeah, um, when it comes to a lot of women? Yes, it definitely did occur. And it manifests in different ways to where a lot of woman sleep on a man's intuition shout out to the ghosts for saying, telling me that, but a sleep on
ghosts because he does all of the beat that everybody hears at the end of the podcast. He did that for both this podcast and the fucking essentials. So shout out to one of the greatest sound engineers and producers ever. But go ahead, man.
Yeah, man. He was saying like, woman sleep on a man's, you know, intuition. Like a lot of women. don't really listen to men these days. You feel me, like even I have a head on my shoulders. And they're in my head. And as far as woman like actually taking what I say, seriously, is not that high. You get what I'm saying? A lot of women, they value me as a listening err, and stuff like that. But as far as actually really, really listening to what I'm saying and the seriousness behind what I'm saying? I don't think they able to grasp that because of the program.
What do you what do you say, when the counter, the counter argument is introduced that a lot of men don't listen to women, right? Like, I know, a terribly awful amount of men that will straight up tell you they don't listen to women, they don't value their opinions. What do you say to that counter argument?
Um, to be honest, there's truth to that. Both genders are just hard headed and don't listen each other as a collective. You know, because a lot of people as a collective we have a comprehension disorder, bro. Like, just as a collective, a lot of people, they lack comprehension skills. Gotcha, gotcha. Okay, so, you Oh, sorry. No, go I got a lot of people based off what I noticed, you'll find people that is like smart. You know, you'll find people that have intelligence. But the comprehension skills is extremely rare. A lot of comprehension skills is just rare. So the way that you have like high emotional intelligence at the level that you're at and doing what you're doing, not many people have that ability. I'm not saying they got to do the exact same thing as you. But it's more like, they don't have the comprehension skills to do what you do.
So my thing is, what happens when you have let's say, a woman who feels like she's never been listened to and respected by a man, right? And then that same man comes back around to try and give her advice. Do you think that that woman should listen or like what would she be wrong for then not listening to men? If that's what she's experienced on the flip?
To be honest, to be honest, is is pretty much a gray area thing. It really depends. Because if the advice is solid, as much as we can dismiss an individual for past mistakes, if it's solid advice is solid advice. No time. I can't neglect how she feels towards that that individual because it's similar to like the boy who cried wolf. You know, the, the, you know, he kept crying Oh, there's a wolf. There's a wolf as well. And then people didn't believe him. I think he got killed later, if I recall that story, but Yeah, kinda like that
finally showed up and not none of the villagers came to help. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so then, what what is it? So two part question, what is it that the men can do to increase the interpersonal relationship with women and better, and help develop better relationships with the opposite sex? And then the same question for women?
To be honest, you're gonna laugh if I tell if I say this man. You said what phonics phonics meant?
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No actual phonics?
No, not seriously, like the comprehension skills. Because the thing with comprehension is, everyone has various different degrees of discernment based off of what they've experienced. So I can't expect people to have my level of discernment, because I've been in so many unconventional situations, you've been in so many unconventional situations. That is, like, certain things we're able to pick up on. Because we've been, we've been in just weird places, you know, I'm saying essentially, that a lot of people just don't relate to. So our minds how we operate is different. So it's like comparing a man who hunts great white sharks for a living with a spare, versus a guy who shoots There you go, I'm saying, right. Because the ocean, we are at the complete mercy of that environment. So for you to be able to have that skill to capture great whites, despite their size and your strength and all that, you're going to have a different experience most people are not going to relate to because most people don't fish and most people don't fish, great whites. So when it comes to a lot of men, you know, they need phonics, seriously, they need phonics, they need to get to the groundwork of comprehension, because a lot of guys, what I noticed is when we can't be telling you something, and you can overlook it, because you're really not trying to like comprehend what she's where she's coming from. Gotcha. You know, a lot of guys, they have to like really understand where they're coming from. And another thing too, when it comes to a lot of guys on another thing they can improve it is that you know, it sounds like you don't have like, we want women to be a little more logical when it comes to dealing with us. I'm not saying we have to be a little more emotional, but we have to, like try to understand the root cause of where her emotion might be stemming from.
So increase empathy. Basically.
I won't say necessarily empathy, but it's more like a like, try to die. I won't say dissect, but try to get to the root of where she's coming from. Because empathy is more like, you're feeling for someone you can like, relate. I don't like I'm a man, bro, I can't relate to a woman completely?
Well, no, I think there's like a difference between like, empathy and sympathy. Sympathy is when you're feeling it, as well as them think empathy is just simply saying, like, you can understand how they're feeling. But you're not feeling it for them. Right. But I'm 100% with you there, right. Like, I've never been a woman. I don't know, I've never given birth, I wouldn't presume to know how bad that is, or how great it is. Right? Um, and but I'm also very fair on the opposite side, you know, I, for example, I don't allow a woman to tell me how to be a father and I don't presume to tell her how to be a mother. If there's something that I see that is detrimental to the child. And hopefully the same thing on the other side, told me about being a good parent, but don't specifically tell me about being a father. Right, because I wouldn't specifically tell you about him being a mother. I view it as a respecting mutual respecting.
Yeah, of course, of course. And the roles are roles. I just, yes, you're both, you know, care for the child with roles are different. And they're designed for different reasons, right? They are designed for different reasons. Another thing I want to say is that a lot of people, since you brought up fatherhood, a lot of men just culturally devalue their own paternal importance.
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I agree with that. I definitely.
Like it, people make it seem like being a mother is so much more important than being a father. And that's not true. That's not true. Being a father is so important. And it's not important just for the daughters, you know, it's important for everyone, it's even important for the mother. You know,
I think that there's, um, I definitely agree with you, right? Like, there's a limit to how much each parent can do. Right? Um, you know, even if you are in a situation where you're a boy who's learning how to be a man from a woman, when you go out and you actually execute based on that manhood, and it's tested and tried. Your your version of manhood is going to change. So that's usually why I'll say, you know, a man can't teach a woman how to be a woman and a woman can't teach a man how to be a man. So there's, there's an obvious limitation there. I definitely agree with you. I think both parents are very important and they're both needed. What what's your what's your stance on the hop into? I'm gonna get a little bit more hot blooded. What's your stance on some of the divisiveness that we've seen from characters claiming the red pill movement like Kevin Samuels and other guys who just kind of, you know, they kind of bathe women with things that they're doing wrong? And it seems a little bit more salacious than it actually is? Helpful. What's your take on that?
All right. So when it comes to Kevin Samuel stain, first of all, I want to say like, I like some of his content, but it's not something I keep up with, like every day like I don't, I don't salivate over Kevin's content. I don't know. But the thing is what Kevin, I think what Kevin is doing, is, is polarizing, is definitely it's obviously polarizing. But the thing is, what Kevin is that Kevin, with all due respect, does not have he has the authority to speak on what he's speaking about, because the world he's lived in and his experiences, but he does not have the authority to heal. He doesn't have that ability. You know, and we need healing more than we need high value.
I see where you're coming from, I think a lot of his stuff is, you know, definitely calling shit out. And it's not written necessarily calling it out in a way that it's going to be easily accepted and palatable. It's calling it out in a very, like, Fuck You Matter of fact, way. And, um, yeah, that's definitely not working for a lot of people out there. So I could definitely see what you're saying, um, do you think that um, because my sense is always well, you know, these people are calling in, right? He Himself will say that he's been doing this work. And when he was talking to men the same way that he's currently talking to women. Nobody was latching on. But as soon as he started talking to women, that way, people started following him and latching on. Do you think that he's doing more harm with these women that he's talking to? Or more good? What do you do the scale? Is there?
Man, is he doing harm? Or is he doing good? That's a tough question. I really I think about that for say, I really got to think about that for say, the
time. I mean, the listeners might judge that. But
man, that's, that's tough. That's very, very tough. Man. That's when I'll
quantify it a little bit more. Because obviously, you know, you could think while I'm talking about it, but obviously, if you call into a show, and someone tells you, you know, all of the things that you're doing wrong in this way that could be seen as rude, right, like telling women that they're fat, they're overweight, and they may very well be fat and overweight. Right? I'm not saying that's neither here nor there. Maybe true or untrue. Um, you know, you're you're, you know, disrespecting or devaluing the way that they see themselves. Because the question of asking someone where they rate themselves on a scale of one to 10 that has to do more about how they see themselves, then how the world actually sees them. And I think without actually acknowledging that, those are two separate things that you're measuring. And yeah, you know, that that can be extreme. really confusing and extremely unnecessary to go over with somebody? What's your stance there? Ah,
ah, that's pretty tough. I'll say like this, I'll say like this. Kevin style is effective. Play, it does have some serious cons. And let me tell you why it's effective. Because for the first time, it throughout, like media history, we've seen a man give a reality check to a bunch of women. And that alone appeals to a lot of guys. Just as a collector, that's
the first time like, obviously, I think pimping is an extreme version of that, right, like you take into into the violence and into the abuse and extreme manipulation. But isn't that essentially what the foundation of building is? And I say that because I think that's also why you'll have this guttural you know, negative response, or of like, Republic nation. When you see a man check a woman, it's because we know about things like pimping domestic abuse, traditional control, metrics, you know, the, the actual factual things about the patriarchy. Would you say, No, man, I feel like I'm kind of rapid fire and these questions, actually. So my apologies. But would you say that has something to do with why people are a little bit repulsed by him?
Yeah, because it's the firt. Like, it just, it's the first time that you have a millionaire, given reality checks to woman, like, on a consistent basis, because a lot of guys, they don't have that access. But here's the downside. When it comes to Kevin, Kevin's biggest downside, and I don't think people touch on this. Kevin lives in a bubble.
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You know, I do it reasonable.
He lives in a bubble, like a lot of the things that he talks about, don't get it twisted. They're on point for someone at his class level. But again, they're not realistic. It's not realistic, universal.
Don't Don't, would you? And, you know, feel free to disagree with me here. But I think a lot of the descriptions that he gives a woman or have like this idea of the high value woman or the ideal woman has a I don't know it sounds like a character or have like, a character from Legally Blonde or something. You don't I mean, like, yeah, yeah, it doesn't seem to be culturally inclusive at all. And that's kind of bothersome coming from a black man. But no, but
his his, like, his upbringing was very, like, he went to he went to like great schools and stuff like that. I'm not again, I'm not here to make excuses. But his path in life made him limited, as far as his perspective, is saying. He was saying, like, he was saying, you know, these are high value, there's not many men who are at that, who are at that level, like, America has 300 million people. And not many people are most most people in America are not making 40,000 a year, nevermind the numbers he's talking about. It's not realistic. So you can't tell you can't tell a woman. And here's another thing about Kevin, a lot of the women who call in his show, I think initially were women that was actually doing well for themselves. You know, they were woman at you know, own stores and stuff like that. I just think I just think that he's able to, he can shatter their reality, but he don't know how to put his put himself in their reality to adjust their reality. Gotcha. What, what a bit. Yeah, well fits well with their reality. For example, when I do consultations with people, and they're telling me certain things, I tend to think about how I can what can I do to cater to that individual specifically, right, I can't use an all shoe fits all approach, because that is different. If someone comes to you and they're being shot Hmm. So and they are traumatized from being shot is but it's also different in someone is coming to you and they're and they've been molested or something like that. Both are traumatic experiences, but they are different. I can't approach each individual the same way with the same answer.
Right No, I agree with that. Um, and I think that that is a big issue along with it. Right but we don't got to spend all this time talking about him events. Samuels a pretty sure he gets enough press coverage. Um, you mentioned something earlier, which was, you know, this idea of, you know, high value women. And when I say high value enlisted, in this consideration, we're talking about women who have achieved their financial goals. So women who are business owners home owners calling into the Kevin Samuel show. And presumably that would be because loneliness is a, you know, has become a larger priority as time has moved on. What advice do you have for those women from the masculine standpoint, from the man
to be realistic, um, your, your options are, first off, you got to be real with where you stand. In life, that's the first most important thing you got to be real with where you stand in life, you got to be real with what you can access, and you got to be real as far as like your needs, if your needs and wants don't make sense, or they're not palatable in your life. Don't pursue those don't pursue that heavy. You know, that's, that would be my advice. Like, for example, if a chick if a woman has owns a store, and she's 35 years old, and you know, she's single, she's trying to look for someone, like, I got to ask, why do you why do you want a man so much? You know, why do you want a man? Right? Like, what do I want a man? Yeah, like, I want a man for this, this and that. Okay? Well, most men don't have these things that you desire. So if you desire men to be at your level, or greater, but you got to be attracted to them. It creates, your options are limited. And then you want a man that doesn't play games.
I know that you brought that up, because one of the things that I've tried to tell women over and over again, right, and this is not a thing where I'm trying to mansplain or any of that. My point to women is you want if you want a man who's one attractive to good in bed, and three, doing well for him so financially, you are probably not going to get for a faithful, monogamous man. Like that's not gonna be in his eye. Like it's very, it's not very likely that that's going to be something that that type of man desires, right? Um, and it's pretty simple. It's because he has options, you get what I mean. And a man who I think that there can be a bit of skew because of a man who cares about himself and values himself will take the time to exercise his options. If I'm
Yeah, it's hard to find that so you're you're looking for a a basically a monogamous Bruce Wayne. You know, a lot of I know sounds funny as hell thinking. Right?
Unknown Speaker 28:31
But like, imagine a monogamous Tony Stark?
Yeah, exactly. It's hard to, it's hard to because it's like, your level of appeal. And your level of options is just, you just have so much to work with. Now, as far as finding someone who is the most suitable is is definitely hard. And this is why I'm about being realistic as possible. Because to be quite rude, you a lot of woman just offered a look stamp because there is a beauty politics that comes with this type of stuff. Because a chick who is doing welfare, so that's like an eighth or something like that. You know, she's gonna have more options with men who's at a certain caliber. So if she makes, let's say, you want to know what part
yeah, she has. You said it exactly hit like them on the head. She has more options with men of a certain caliber men who are like in her lane, like the same guy that I mentioned. Right? Yeah, they want nothing to do with her. And it's crazy for like the reason why is it men who are successful, find women who are successful, very hard to deal with when it comes to relationships, and it's is not like a, oh, well, she's hard to deal with naggy blah, blah, blah. That's not what we're talking about. It's more so it can feel like this is something that she's very dedicated to and very crafted. And you aren't going to get any wiggle room or say. And these are men who are used to having say, so they find it very hard to mesh with other successful what to mesh with their successful counterparts. And vice versa.
Yeah, of course, of course. And, and, and it really comes down to, and looks are tied into as well. You know, people can say look, like as far as just the vein beauty of Lux is pretty much overrated. But as far as Lux is, there's politics that come with that as well. So you have two women that's in the same, you know, financial position, they both make $100,000 a year. One is an eight out of 10. And the other is a is a five out of 10. Right? A men, a men who's probably at their level, or I wouldn't say men at their level, but who's going to be more appealing to Drake? The Hill? Yeah, exactly. The A's going to be more appealing to Drake. Drake is not going to openly wife up with six. Because again, image is important.
Well, you see, you see men that have like insecurities. They'll pursue a physically less attractive woman who's doing better for herself. Right? Um, but then also think about what's going on there. The objective is usually some sort of manipulation. So right? If I'm being honest, just you got to even out you got to build genuine relationships with people and see who's actually there for you.
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Exactly. And you know, it's very tough because a lot of woman who's at a who's at a certain, like, for example. Oprah for the most part. I know she was Stedman. But I mean, let's be honest, she how many? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know about their relationship. But as far as like, the level that Oprah is at how many people how many men? Just across the board, we deal with Oprah.
Unknown Speaker 32:28
You know, how many,
there's not many just off just off, like, just off
the whole is one of my favorite rappers. But I find Beyonce to be kind of annoying. But in my defense, I've found her annoying since the very beginning.
Yeah, man. But here's the thing when it comes to like Beyonce, Rihanna, you have guys who earn less that would that would want to put up with, you know, whatever, whatever, you know, toxic behavior. I won't say for that long, but they'll put up with it. But if Oprah's toxic, and she's dealing with a guy that is worth much less than she is, he's oftentimes not going to want to stay for the most part.
Well, how long do you actually need to stay before you've maximized benefit? Right? Like, you don't need to stay with a billionaire for 20 years to get your money. Like, yeah,
it's just different when it comes to like males and females, though. Because, like, if a woman is entering a situation with a billionaire, she's oftentimes going to come out as situation a lot stronger.
But she's also going to pretend for a lot longer because of the stigma, like my personal opinion, is that we put too much stigma on shit. Like, I wish there were people, like people would just be honest about what the fuck they want. Like, if somebody came up to you, me and was like, you know, this is really 100% What I want you I want $20,000 In a baby, right? I'd much rather know that. But obviously, nobody's gonna walk up to you and just say that, but there's an additional reason why they don't walk up to you and say that, it may not have nothing to do with you saying yes or no. And everything to do with the way that we have set up society where if a woman goes out and she's promiscuous, then she's the talk of the town or, you know, people have a whole ton to say about her. I'm not saying that you shouldn't think about it. However you think about it. Or, you know, if you think that's something that a woman shouldn't do great. My sense is, if we got busy shutting the fuck up about it, then you would know who's who. Right. I think I've seen something and publicly shaming it only does more to hide it.
Yeah, that's true. That's To us, that's very, very true. Like a lot of people, they do fear shame across the board. You know, a lot. And this is a thing. This is why, again, like being realistic can really help the world man. You know, because there are guys who. And another thing too, I forgot to mention this before I forget personality. Personalities is very, very important. I mean, a lot of people sleep on a currency of personality. Like, I couldn't be connected to you, if I was just a regular. If I was just a regular Joe out here that wasn't about anything.
I mean, yeah, no, I think that's I think Pete Davidson is a great example of a personality thing. Right? Because everybody's out here wondering, how's he would Kim Kardashian, how did he get with Ariana Grande? How was he with this person? That person is like, he has a great personality, right? Like, he's always joking. Trying to have fun. Um, it's the same thing when you bring up your personality, I think you're very, you're a very balanced individual. Right? Um, you know, just because you represent, you know, a certain ideal, or, you know, as AI guys, I don't see you nailing yourself to the cross on the shit. You got. I mean,
yeah, of course, I, I'm gonna be honest with you, man. Like, at a certain point, like, I don't even want to the Odyssey says about between 22 I don't even want to identify myself as red pill, man. You know, I just want to deal with reality. Because at the end of the day, the you know, the red pill, and the blue pill, those are great concepts. But here's the thing is based off of off of fiction is based off of fiction. It is based off a movie called The Matrix is direction you're going in, you feel me I'm about reality, you know, and don't get it twisted, like, the idea of the red pill. And the blue pill is great. But there's people like us who deal with reality. And our talking points are a lot more realistic and balanced. And a lot of guys who claim to be red pill, who's about the truth, because a lot of people they get into, like the extremism of these things, they get so attached to the concept with these things. Like one of the things I gravitated a lot of people towards me, in that community. Um, and so many people are so many people I really rock with to this day, is the fact that I'm very, very balanced and realistic. There was a Yo, what are you? Oh, my mind outside of it? Right. So I'm,
I guess this is a bit deep into the actual episode, right? So one of the things for a lot of our listeners is, you know, I, I, you know, showed up, I talked to your group, and we had the podcast that you were running when you were live streaming. And, you know, I showed up on that as well. But it was recognizing you build a community of men internationally, right, that were meant from here that were meant from the UK. I think you even had a couple of people from Canada, that were, you know, really serious about healing some of the scars and some of the wounds that they had as men, so I was just always impressed by that man.
Yeah, definitely, definitely been in, you know, I got a couple of people I'm really close to from, you know, the UK, who really found me because of the red pill community, so I'm thankful for the community, you know, because I was able to network with people across the pond. Like I'm thankful for that. I don't downplay that. It's not something that it's not something to sleep on. But at the same time, instead of looking at videos of how messed up women are, or how messed up men are, we got to be realistic. A lot of guys out here are scumbags. You know, and you know, a lot of guys, especially like even in a reptile community men, that we got it we got to be real about the dark side of male nature. We got to be real about male nature as well, because, like you were saying, as far as Pete Davidson, a lot of people especially guys is talking about, yo, how is he getting Kim Kardashian? Because she liked the guy. Let's do it. Why can we just leave it at that? Right you know, but a lot of people feel like he don't deserve her because of you know, he looked weird or whatnot. Right? That's jealousy. Exactly, exactly. Exactly. I always say this right. And I've been saying this for like a long time. If I had if I had like a dime piece on my arm. Red Pill guys would hate me to what was this young man doing where they'll talk all this about woman but if I have myself a die They're not going to be like, poor man, another high Pergamus creature than took when our soldiers know they're gonna be they're gonna feel like they deserve her.
Okay, so that's actually something that's really interesting. And I would urge a lot of you bro pill brothers to kind of look at that. Think about it. Is this some action actually about, you know brothership and manhood or is it about jealousy and hate? And you know? Let's go ahead though, switch it up, Tom for story for a story. Right? So this is a segment that I do every episode. I trade a story with my guests, right? So you tell the story and auto story. So we just want to hear what is a crazy or a wild story that you could tell us
a story for his story. Yeah, ah, man story for his story. Um,
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you share one, I'll share one.
All right. So I had, um, there was this chair I was talking to in 2016, how to be around them, how to be like, almost six years ago. And she, me and her we had natural chemistry. So I was an intern. I was an IT intern at the time. They didn't really have me really doing anything. So I'm on a computer. And I'm watching like, I think I'm watching like Hotline Bling is something like that, because that song was big at the time. Because Hotline Bling came out, like around thing fall 2015. So I was listening to Hotline Bling, by Drake. And then I get a phone call. I'm like, yo, who's calling me? And then this dude tells me yo, stop hitting on my girl that, like, I'm scared because, you know, this, this is some gruff sounding. You know, this is some gruff sounding, you know, guy from the hood, I'm afraid. I'm like, yo, like, my whole mouth, my entire body was in a state of shock. Hearing it. Right, right. Because I'm like, That's never happened to me before. And I'm like, for that to happen for the first time. And it's like, don't make me confine you. I was scared. I was scared to be honest. Because imagine you imagine you in the office, right? And you just on a computer. You know, you know, it's a slow day, and then you get a call from some random number threatening you to stop dealing with the girl. It's scary, you know, but that, that the situations like that have helped me to be balanced when it comes to a lot of things concerning, you know, male nature and all that. Because a lot of it is really politics, like, for example, the Pookie and Ray Ray conversation. Do you guys really care about Pookie Ray, we're destroying a community? Or do you want access to the woman that they're able to pull? Huh? It all comes down to like your intentions and why you're doing what you're doing?
That makes sense. I got one for you. Right. Um, so along the lines of what you should. So I was in Okinawa, and there was this girl I was talking to. And she had, like, it was like this little condo apartment. The Air Force calls him dorms, right? What I'm from the Marine Corps, so we call them barracks. So we go to her room. It's like this little apartment. We walked through the door. I'm used to a duty being near somebody stopping me telling me you can't go to the women's room. There's nobody, right? Go all the way up to her room. Like and it's really like a fucking little apartment. And I know that sounds like I'm tweaking on the fact that she had an apartment. I just want you to know that was not something that usually happens, right? You usually have somebody sharing a room. There's no kitchen, there's no real amenities. Like, it's the military right? So you know, we spent all weekend together we fogging we doing our thing. We go out for in near food going on little dates and shit. Come back. And I'm when I say like she she's into it. I'm into where she did out of langslow sweet personality is dope, right? Problem is she's engaged, right? I don't care. Just being honest with y'all. I don't care. I didn't care. Right? But she's telling me when she goes home, she's gonna call it off the I didn't put any stock in it. Right? Because I'm from Brooklyn. I kind of understand the way these things go. Like whatever you do is whatever you do, I don't care what you do. Um, so she goes home. She goes back to where she's from. She comes back and she goes You know, we're obviously linking back up. This is after a session she's laying on my chest and she goes, I have something to tell you don't get mad. I was like, why would I get mad? Right? Like, if anybody knows me like, I'm very nonchalant. I'm I'm a nonchalant do with a temper, if that makes sense. Yeah, so she, um, she's like, Oh, don't get mad. I'm like, why would I get mad? Right? She goes, Okay, well, I went home, and I got married. So again, I repeat it like why would I get mad beautiful if that were not me. And I'm laughing like, because I didn't really think nothing of it, but put my whole foot in my mouth. She got offended. And no, didn't want to sleep with me after that. So shut the fuck up, kept my smart my little apartment get away. While she was trying to be trifling, but open up my big fat mouth.
Yo, you know, we, you know, there's so many lessons in life, what you said, I think the biggest thing that we can learn from think the biggest thing that we can learn from your story is honesty. Honesty can give you benefits that lying is just not going to give you. But a lot of people are not going to perceive the benefits of honesty until later. Which is why people lie so much.
Yeah, and I mean, in all honesty, she could have told me like, Yo, I'm going home. I'm gonna get married. But I still want to do this on the side. I would have been like, I cool. And I would have been a good side dude. embsay To my respectable place. Right? Um, no, I think there's rules to being Assad. Do you maintain respect? And you shut the fuck up?
But, bro, is there anything that you would like to leave the listeners with? Just one thing you'd like Riven with?
On on every level, you just gotta be realistic. But one of the things I also want to say real quick, is that maintain a sense of gratitude. You know, I know with this American culture, you know, they push this, you're not doing enough. And you know, there is 24 hours in a day, you might not be doing enough, but at the same time. Enough is subjective. Enough is subjective. Like if you got a roof over your head, you got some heat on, you've done enough for the day, you know, that maintain a sense of gratitude. Because at every level, there's pros and cons at every level in life. It don't matter if you're rich, it'll matter if you're poor. There's always pros and cons. It's like being a child. There's pros and there's cons to even being a child. But people romanticize childhood so much, right? Not knowing that there's benefits to being an adult. You know, there's benefits to adults. There's benefits to being older. There's benefits to being younger, benefits, anything and everything. Exactly. So maintain that sense of gratitude. And don't maintain that sense of gratitude because you can always things could be worse, no maintain essence of gratitude. Because be grateful for every stage that you're in.
I love it. I love it. Be grateful. And for those you listening, go be great.